His Point of View

Successful, Black, and…Tired

by mrggfep on Dec.22, 2009, under Dating and Relationships

Last night the straw finally broke this Camel’s back when I read the article below about Helena Andrews.  I am glad to see a young lady write a book which had its rights quickly purchased to make a screenplay.  I wish her the best… but I can’t take this anymore.  I am absolutely tired of young African American women claiming that there are no good, single educated young men available for them to settle down with.  At some point you have to take a look at yourself and figure out what you are doing wrong…I know, I know… its not your fault… its everybody else in the world. Oh, and I know… I know… I am trying to flip it around and make it the woman’s fault that she can’t find a man :lol: Everybody knows that it could not possibly anything that we are doing wrong to cause our miserable state of existence, right?

I am a 29 year old, heterosexual,(single ;-) )African American man.  I can tell you that its not easy to find an educated, well rounded, kind-hearted, African American woman who takes care of her body(yes I went there, I am not one who buys into this whole idea of “thick” women being ideal, you have to be able to keep up with me or you will get left behind).  To be honest many of these women who think they have their act together are walking train wrecks and we (educated, successful young men) don’t want to deal with their baggage.  Now you don’t hear 1000 bloggers or talk shows related to this topic because we don’t sit around and whine about it.  If you don’t like your situation make some changes to your program and keep tweaking it until you find the right formula.  Before you make “that” comment let me say two things;  Thing I want to say number one,  I know I am not perfect… Thing I want to say number two, I am not complaining about being single… as far as I am concerned that’s just the way it is until such time that my status changes.

I have a ton of respectable, college educated/post graduate degree having male friends who are on a path to success, and guess what many of them are  single.  Another little secret…most of them are ready and wanting to settle down with THE RIGHT WOMAN, get married and start a family.  I emphasize the these words because it has been said that a man will not hesitate to commit to THE RIGHT WOMAN.  Every good woman is not The Right Woman for every good man. There is a bit of trial and error in the dating process.  I have found that women tend to take being rejected by a man who they are attracted to much more personally than men, perhaps this is a source of much of this frustration.  Men, for the most part get the bad news and go the the bar to have some drinks and we keep it moving. From my experience a lot of women just can’t fathom the idea that a man she wants does not want her.

Sometime in the not so distant past many of these women bought into the idea that intelligent men are intimidated by a successful woman, that’s bologna.  I want nothing more than to date a woman who is on a path to success.  I spend time and money to surround myself with successful people, because I know that you become who you associate yourself with.  The problem in a relationship comes when a “successful” woman thinks a man is intimidated by her,  that’s when things get misinterpreted. When the only tool you have is a hammer everything is a nail, meaning that every relationship problem gets blamed on the assumption that the man is intimidated by the woman’s success.  Then we get into this whole fallacy of a woman letting her man be a man.  That idea is laughable.  A male is either a man, or not… there is nothing a woman can do to negate a real man’s manhood.   If you find yourself “letting a man be a man” you either never had a man to begin with, or you are misinterpreting the situation.

I have been a resident of the DC metro area for 16 months now, and I must say that the idea of success is a big deal on the dating scene around here.  Some ladies who I am sure felt that they were the catch of the day simply did not measure up in my book.  A young lady’s looks, money, career, or accomplishments are not what keeps a man interested.  You have to have substance when all those things are removed.  If I go out with one more woman who can’t stop talking about her job I might scream.  I think some of these ladies have let their accomplishments encroach into their definition of themselves.  I understand that working hard and struggling to achieve certain things has an affect on a person, but when it comes to dating you have to shed all of that and get to know each other.

In the article Helena is quoted as  saying that many black women wear a mask of bitchiness, especially in the workplace… Why is this supposedly false persona of being a bitch necessary? (How am I, as a man supposed to know if you are really a “bitch” or just playing the role at certain times?) How does being a “bitch help to make your life any easier?  Do you think a man wants that in a woman?  Even if you are not a “bitch” toward me, if I see you acting in that manner I would likely not consider getting to know you on a personal level.  Helena was quoted as saying that black men can’t deal with certain types of “strong”, “opinionated”, “can-do” black women.  In many of these cases a man will chose not to deal with some of the characteristics of these so called “strong” women.  No smart man wants to associate himself with a woman who appears to be a headache in heels.  Again this falls into the category of evaluating what you are doing wrong, and making changes.

Another thing that disturbed me about this article is the portion where she describes a need for a “winter boo”, which is a man good enough to date in the winter but the woman drops like a hot potato in the spring, so that she can be free to mingle.  I am a believer in Karma, if you use men for your pleasure and comfort you should not expect to have an easy time finding true love.  (The same thing goes for men who lie to & use women for sex) How can a person who laments about being single, use men who are showing a true interest in them?  If you are not interested in being serious with a person you have a responsibility to make that fact clear to them, otherwise you deserve all the heartache and loneliness that the world serves you.

If you keep a person around simply because you don’t want to be alone, or because you want to have someone to cuddle up with when it cold outside, you are selling yourself short.  I firmly believe that if you are wasting someone’s time in such a manner you are missing opportunities to meet a person you really are compatible with. How you ask???  If you were to ask I would say that all those nights you spend cuddled up with a dude you really are not feeling a connection with you might have gone out or been involved in some activity, or maybe you would have been invited somewhere that you could have bumped into the person you really could have connected with.  But since you chose to waste someone’s time you may have missed that chance and you will continue to be lonely.

In my opinion its better to be alone & open to any opportunity which might arise, than it is to deal with someone you know that you are not satisfied with.  Don’t play with people’s emotions if for no other reason than, you are doing unto others as you would never want done to you.

One statement she made that I agree with is that ‘people need to figure out what they want to do… ‘that goes for men and women as far as I am concerned.



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  • Fabiola
    It's interesting you say that black men have the same problems but just don't complain about it. That's probably b/c they are not as in a [time] rush as women are & also b/c men are programmed to want to wait to meet certain personal goals before he decides to settle down.

    I think that the complaint of most women is not that they can't find or don't meet good men. I think the real complaint should be about exclusivity. (At least that's my complaint.) It's easy to meet good men, but are they willing, ready, and able to be in a relationship with you right now. I think that the problem is that people are looking to the future too soon before the future even gets here. Of course, we're acting now with the future in mind, but men should realize that we're saying let's try this relationship thing out. I'm not saying let's get married (at least I'm not). Hell, he might not even be the one but the fact that we're exploring the possibilities of us liking each other is a move in the right direction.

    If more women would stop putting the pressure on men about the next step, marriage, etc then more men would come into it on his own. I also say that if he doesn't see it then don't push him to see. Just move on to the next. As stated above, not every good woman will be the right woman.

    Ladies, let a man get to know you on your terms, not on his. Also, there is nothing that a woman has to do to get a man to commit. The man who sees that special spark in her, that only she possesses, will not expect her to be anything other than who she is. And he will value, appreciate, and love her for it.- Hill Harper in 'The Conversation'
  • Celise
    To "His Point of View", you sound opinionated, your views warped and somewhat simple (my apologies if that's harsh). Men use women for pleasure until they're tired and then you do the same....complain that there aren't any good women or their issues are as deep as the well. Well, think about it. For every man, let's say he's given the indulgence of at least 4 or 5 women he's gone through and used pretty much for pleasure. What's left? Baggage, complaining, bitchiness, tired, worn out, used up. Why complain when you (not you per se) contributed to the demise of the broken down race of women you all seem to claim is your only encounter? If men make a moral commitment to not use and degrade and tear down women, you'll have a better bunch to chose from. Until, and I'm sure at some point that good woman will appear for you but be prepared to weed and sift through the bitchiness that's somewhat attributed to men's behavior.
  • mrggfep
    You can't be used for sex if you don't allow yourself to be used for sex...The women in question obviously enjoy sex with men if they continue to participate, therefore nobody is getting used as long as both parties get something out of the deal.
    Do some men take advantage of women's emotions to have sex with them??? Yes
    Are men at fault when this happens??? No, the woman who spread her legs is just as much at fault for having sex with a man without a real commitment from him. You have to allow yourself to become tired, worn out, and used up. An intelligent person would learn from their mistakes, prior experiences, and the mistakes they observe others make to avoid the same pitfalls in the future. If you continually meet men who use you for sex, then you are doing something wrong and you need to make some adjustments.

    The same goes for men, if I continually meet gold diggers, or women with low self esteem, then clearly I am doing something wrong, and I need to adjust my formula and try again. Complaining does nothing but burn calories. The only way to change your situation is to take some type of action, and make some type of change in your program, because your program is the only one you can change.

    It is a sign of weakness if you allow how other treat you, to affect how you treat other people. Being bitchy toward people who have not wronged you is foolish period.
  • Celise
    First off, please allow me to state, I've only had 3 partners throughout my sexual experience and didn't initially have sex until an adult. My point being though (as I've been the group's shoulder to cry on, on many occasions) is that while a handful of women are out for nothing but "no-good", the vast majority are having sex and using their bodies as a means of expressing love. You obviously do not understand the adverse affect of men lying and telling lies all in the name of a good lay while having most (women) to believe them to be true....until otherwise shown or indicated. The average woman ain't just spreading her leggs in the name of "feel good." Yes feeling good is obviously part of the package but most do, in the name of what is believed to be or become or in hopes of LOVE. Women are now dogged, used up, abused because repeatedly she's been lied to or told some story as an effort for some dude to get her bagged. While he NEVER means what he's saying nor have intentions or following through, yes you're right (after 100 times), she's dumb enough to believe the lies. Being caught between a rock and hard place, she's either become bitter and hard or dumb, stupid and abused. A direct result in some game or bullcrap some dude was playing to get laid. I only say as men, be upfront and direct about your intentions and that in and of itself will not only weed for her but for you as well. If you state upfront that it's only ass you're after and you're getting it purely on those terms then no, there's no one to blame but one's self. However, if you lie, cheat and almost steal the coochie, shame on you shame on you shame on you. What do you expect to have left in looking for or weeding through to find that good woman? Now that some men are ready to settle down, they won't call it for what it is but can see just how much damage is done when using women for sport because you now see how scarce and hard it is in finding a good woman or that woman that's not been carried through changes or used over and over. Heck, I wouldn't want to deal with that either. But the problem lies deep and it's unfair to say a woman shouldn't be stupid, or shouldn't allow herself to be use (in which I agree), when all of you all have contributed to the demise. See, when you're out gallavanting and getting yours all in the name of good times and good lays, you don't realize you're leaving someone one marred and tainted....for someone else. You don't realize that when you start that search for that one and only, what you're finding is the same result, only done by men other than yourself. So noooow you say, women are stupid for getting used or too much baggage or too many walls or too hard. You want to cut back and alleviate (or work towards), then you have to first look within and how you're contributing to the problem. You want a "good" woman, think about this the next time you know you hitting because you just want ass.....AND NOTHING ELSE. Be up front about your intentions. Be honest and TELL THE TRUTH to her. You don't want to call after the rump, say so before rumping. Give her the option to make the right choice. Don't steal her choice by lying. Don't have me to trust you when you know what your doing and your intentions is purely selfish and all a lie. As I know it won't happen because dating has become a vicious cycle, just think, if we REALLY did this how much better both men and women would be.
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