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Women depreciate and men appreciate

by on Dec.04, 2009, under Dating and Relationships, My Thoughts

“Women depreciate and men appreciate”

That was a statement made today during a discussion on the finer points of dating. I took the statement to mean that women typically are attracted more by a man’s level of success and ability to provide for a woman/family. While men are typically attracted to a woman’s physical appearance. Therefore young women have more good looks to offer, and as they age their looks diminish…while younger men have less ability to provide for a woman, but as we age we (should) have more to offer a woman therefore older men are more attractive to women.

This statement seems to hold a lot of weight for several reasons. Perhaps this contributes to the frustration some older single ladies have…Perhaps this contributes to the high number of young ladies dating older men…Perhaps this is why women begin to lower their standards as they age (although in many cases lowering standards is what should have been done long ago if the woman’s expectations are not in line with what she has to offer a potential mate)…Perhaps you have something to say about this statement… Please feel free to comment below.

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  • mawilliams24

    Men take forever to mature so for women to seek an older man is sometimes attributed to the woman wanting a man that has passed all the immature BS that men go through. Other women only want an older man because they are expecting him to fall all over a hot young thing and buy her anything she wants (gold diggers). I know that I have NEVER been attracted to older men. Something about older men creep me out. Now your revelation here might also be the very reasons why people are waiting to marry and have kids now instead of rushing to do it in their early twenties. I know I have decided to wait because everyone I dated was full of crap until I hit my late 20s. It seems like a lot of guys were more willing to be honest about their intentions upfront as I got older. Now I agree that men appreciate, but women should also have more to offer by way of patience, understanding, and wisdom gained (hopefully from failed relationships). Women should now know what to do to make a relationship work because they have had the time to learn from the past mistakes (men as well should be able to contribute some wisdom to the relationship). And for the record, men’s looks also decline with age…laugh lines, male pattern baldness, weight gain, etc. Thank goodness I still look 20 something!

  • mrggfep

    It is true that many men have declining looks as well, but the point here is that most women are attracted more by what a man has to offer rather than his looks. Most women can date a not so looking guy who seems to be financially secure. Where as most men are attracted by women's looks more than other factors. If a woman looks good most men will give her more of a chance to see if a relationship can work. If a man appears to be successful ( by what ever means a woman determines success) she is more likely to give that guy a chance, over a good looking dude who appears to be less successful. Of course I am talking about people past their early 20's where all everyone cares about is looks and having fun.

  • mrggfep

    It is true that many men have declining looks as well, but the point here is that most women are attracted more by what a man has to offer rather than his looks. Most women can date a not so looking guy who seems to be financially secure. Where as most men are attracted by women's looks more than other factors. If a woman looks good most men will give her more of a chance to see if a relationship can work. If a man appears to be successful ( by what ever means a woman determines success) she is more likely to give that guy a chance, over a good looking dude who appears to be less successful. Of course I am talking about people past their early 20's where all everyone cares about is looks and having fun.

  • Celise

    I don't think women depreciate and take somewhat offense. This is a vicious cycle that will never break as long as men are the visual creatures they are, placing emphasis on the outer appearance thereby having the reaction from women (most, not all), that that's solely where their value lie. Yes, as we get older I wouldn't say it's hard to stay with standards but you have to turn a blind eye to the happenings within the world of dating, be strong and move on…..even if that means moving on from dating in and of itself. We all want to have that significant other to enjoy, raise a family and grow old with but never at the cost of me, myself. There are two sides to the coin and one continuously affects and reacts to the other. One being either male or female and the other being either female or male. I believe when men learn and become removed from all that' s vain and vanity, the reaction from women will be to dig a little digger and find the women she's meant to be. I'm not placing the blame on either sex, it's just my belief that as long as sex sells as well as bootylicious over ethics, morality and all those things that matter, yes women will continue to scramble and strive to physically edge out all competitors as it is a race to be won. I believe if men, from the gate start their quest for a “good woman” as oppose to weeding, sowing, wading through the masses and wasting time, leaving fallen victims along the way, it will reduce the amount of time a woman spends getting used and recycled. I believe when women hold to values and require men to up the ante, and change the cycle of “love 'em and leave 'em” during their (men) first years of dating….all in the name of good sex or a good time, to marriage first, growing into love next and finally happy ever after, we'll all fair better. I believe if we all hold to a standard, that can only result in ridding relationships of so much the residual weight and baggage we find ourselves still carrying years later or adversely affecting subsequent relationships, thereby killing what could very well become healthy and thirving. Both sexes have some mending, fixing, healing, learning to do and until such time, it's my belief that the cycle of lost in love or the attempt thereof will remain futile.

  • mrggfep

    I can agree with a good bit of what you say, but in this post and others you make it seem like women participate in sex unwillingly. People have sex because all parties involved enjoy it, women allow men to have sex with them because they hope to have a pleasurable experience too. Therefore men are not using women for sex with few exceptions. We all know that in today's world women are just as likely to use a man for sex, and or money. You can't claim that you were used after a relationship sours, when you were making just as many late night phone calls to that dude…

  • gretta

    Hi, i respectfully disagre. Im sure there are still a ton of women who do look for financial security as one of the top requirenments in a mate. its almost ingrained. However, now that many women are makign it on their own – men's earning ability is now so important at all. I really coudnt care less about how much he earns, nor do most of the women i know. And i am an attractive late 20s woman, not a top level exec in my 40s. Also, here is a very important point that i think men often confuse – a woman STILL has to find you sexually arousing for romantic feelings to develop, so making a shit load of money isnt going to magically make a women fall in love with a man. Marry him maybe, but definitely that would be more of a business decision where you sell your beauty and youth for financial stability, not exactly love. Romantic love and sexual attraction for women ALSO required looks, yep just like for the male part of the human species. After all women are only human. Also, another reason why good looking women date men who are not that attractive – because there isnt that much choice unfortunately. Its either that, or you go sexless and lone. When a joe blow wants a 10, its kinda hard for the most women to find someone just as attractive as they are.So my point is – i am not physically attracted to older, balder, flabbier men no more than men are attracted to aging women.

  • mrggfep

    I don't follow what you disagree with. I never mentioned the word love in my post at all. I also never addressed good looking women dating unattractive men. I have no problem or concern if one partner is a 10 and the other is a 2.. as long as they like it I love it. And as far as love goes, that would complicate the matter too much, I am just talking about folks pairing up (dating, marrying, etc.)for whatever reason. And like you said there are a ton of women who are looking for men with money… I did not intend to imply that every single woman was looking for a man with money. Sooooo I said all that to say I don't see much that you really disagree with in my post.

  • gretta

    my bad then. if you are talking simply pairing up for whatever reason, cool. guess i was misled by the “the point here is that most women are attracted more by what a man has to offer rather than his looks. Most women can date a not so looking guy who seems to be financially secure. Where as most men are attracted by women's looks more than other factors. If a woman looks good most men will give her more of a chance to see if a relationship can work.” part. This implied, to me, a romantic relationship. Again, i guess i misinterpreted your column.

  • gretta

    okay, sorry very late night at work.
    I think the disconnect happens when you say – men are attracted to looks vs woman are attracted by more than. I wanted to point out that women are also attracted by looks just as much. period.

    Therefore when you say men appreciate and women depreciate – i disagree.

    Men depreciate as well, because looks matter to both sexes. The fact that a rich man is more likely to score a hot young wife than a young hot guy with no money – has nothing to do with his appreciation. Take the money out of the equation and an older man has less value. A young man with money has more value than an old man with money.

    If most men's earnings were expected to rise with age ( and that is significantly) – then yes, the above statement would be true. However older age in men does not equal more earnings all the time, so the above statement is false.
    Therefore the statment is true only occasionally and can not be used as a fact.Does it make sense?

  • mrggfep

    Regarding your last comment, I am not talking about any particular type of relationship… it can be marriage, dating, sugar daddy, whatever, I am just speaking very generally about relations between men and women.

    Regarding this comment, this post is not meant to be written as a fact that applies 100% of the time. Step back and don't try to make what I say fit every situation. The essence of this post is that men with money and women with looks have more dating options… and usually younger women look the best, and older men typically have the most money. There for as men get older we have more dating options, and younger women have more dating options than most older women. You can't take money out of this equation. And yes there are always exceptions, some older women are very attractive, some younger guys are rich… and some people (very few) can be involved with someone with no regard for their looks or financial stability.

  • gretta

    Absolutely. Generally speaking this is true. yes and yes.

    I was going for more of “correlation does not equal causation ” argument, that higher age in men does not more appeal make. Women dont like men because they are older, but because of status, so age is a correlation. It's the same as saying women don't like guys who are nice. Maybe this also depends on where you live..as far as i can see aroudn me – 23 year old guys making over 100k.

    But why did you post this up for discussion if you already knew this was true and no opposing opinions would be considered?

  • mrggfep

    Opposing opinions are welcome, but you said you opposed my opinion, but you brought issues into play that I never mentioned. Its one thing to disagree with the topic at hand, but another to disagree with things I never mentioned.

  • Sham

    This should be very good news for men.

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